For those of you who seem to think that Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was better than Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, here's some advice.
PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE!
Burton's was superior not just in special effects and cinematography, but was leagues beyond the old one in actual story. Casting and costuming, the two are equal. Gene Wilder plays a great creative old nut as his screenplay called for. Johnny Depp plays an excellent overgrown child as according to his script. The kids and their parents in both did phenomenal work.
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3 comments:
Dude, have a fucking problem...
I absolutely despise the current trend to tailor a story toward the art direction and not the other way around. I'm not a crow, I don't fall for shiny things.
Not to mention that I give the original full props for making brilliant choices with a pretty modest budget. The boat scene in the original? Talk about making the best of a no budget situation! That's all projection and cheap light tricks- and yet it is effective. And let's play count the Oompa-Loompas, shall we? The maximum number of Oompa-Loompas during any given day of shooting the original was 9. 9 Oompa-Loompas. That is what I admire- not Tim Burton's ability to throw money at a creative problem. Great, I'm glad he did the squirrels, but the Geese That lay the Golden Eggs were a pretty good solution to a financial reality. I could go on and on and on.
But I won't.
Apples and freaking oranges my friend. Apples and oranges.
By the by- nice to be reading you.
Hey hey. Here's where I disagree and call Tim Burton the better. The story in the original is a tale of an outside evil trying to influence supposedly innocent children. It's the same communist scare and terrorist scare trype used for indoctrination in so many other films. Formulaic and unsatisfactory. The new one has the problems originating within the characters themselves. It acknowledges personal faults that the individuals must deal with and grow from, including Willy Wonka himself.
Special effects and budget aside, Charlie is a more meaningful story than Willy.
2.9 million in 1971, was not as low budget as you seem to make it out to be for the time period. Granted, most movies for wide release ran on 5 million dollar budgets. But yah know what? Easy rider did it with less than 400,000. Planet of the Apes was 2.5 million. Willy Wonka WAS not that far off from movies of it's time Budget wise. You can’t call it low budget when it was at the very least average for it’s time period.
Yes Tim Burton used CG to enhance the artistic visual quality of the movie. How eerie is the synchronicity of the Oompa-Loompas? How do you react to a tribe of people that is so insync with it’s self that they move perfectly together? Maybe that’s part of the story, too.
I can’t get down on an artist for being so successful that he is able to recreate childhood stories with the money he has made, to provide me, the viewer, with the gift of what the imagination can do!
“You’re mumbling, I can’t understand you when you mumble!”
What is it that make’s Willy Wonka’s Factory so fantastic? It’s in the imagination of the creator and he who makes the grass green. I think that’s part of the message, that given FREEDOM to create as you will you can come up with some Marvelous stuff, universes even. So what if TB had 150 million to throw at this? He made a very stimulating movie that gave me a different picture of the factory and modernized it for the little ones who are surrounded by magical toys that play music with strobe effects.
And god damn-it if the creators of the first one had the technology back then that we do today, what would they do differently?
I do not think that either version of the movie is better than the other set, prop or actor wise. It’s all about the story. Put Johnny Depp’s and Tim Burton’s version of the story onto the same 1971 set and you still have a better tale. A tale that expresses the power of believing in magic and that adults are curmudgeon dinosaurs, hell bent on making children miserable and what they aren’t, because they are.
The CG and pretty’s are icing on the fucking candy!
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